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In my childhood I never imagined about a concept called ‘Akhnd Bharat’, though I knew about India and the subcontinent. I first heard about it on the BJP agenda in late ninties and had sympathy on the brainwashed people to buy such crap material. The concept was quite clear – to bring the subcontinent countries into Indian sphere of influence. Now, this is when I use gentleman’s language. To be more straight forward, it means to expand India to include the whole subcontinent.

I thought most of the people would reject it, and that happened also. Now I think the policy was nothing but a legacy of RSS from their pre-partition days. As BJP matured as a party, this idea and propaganda changed from these childish thoughts to multi-wing economic, social and political causes – although traces of these are still present in their policies.

Let’s not debate about how the idea came, rather let me do a reality check. In general, a hundred years ago the idea used to be – bigger the nation, better it is. It was mostly argued that bigger countries generally have more resources and more influence over the world. But in last few centuries the history has actually proved the other theory. The smaller countries manage their resource in a better way and the citizens are typically more dedicated and motivated – hence they grow quicker. It started in Europe and spread quickly throughout the world – from South America to Africa. Even the so called larger countries also started to implement the idea of breaking up into states and promote the country as an union of the states. This genre of countries include India and the United States. And the third group of countries remain autocratic – sometimes it was an autocracy driven by a person or otherwise centralized rule driven by an idea – Communism. The third set of countries include former USSR, China, Yugoslavia and some Arab countries.

If we look back at post-world-war-II hisory, the countries those were classified as most successful, are still the category 1 countries. Be it Korea, Japan, Taiwan, South East Asian Nations – small countries did well regionally. That means, if the region does well, smaller countries also do well. And the reverse is true as well – take the example of Africa. The larger countries are proved to be the drivers of the region – be it US for North America, or USSR for East Europe, the countries of the same region are tagged along with the Big Brother of the region.

Coming to India and the subcontinent, one of the major reasons of the backwardness of the region is basically the backwardness and non-growth-facing policies of India. Had India been growing at 6-7% per annum for last 30 years, the whole subcontinent would have been different. It would have been through trade and business. The idea of Akhand Bharat would have been spawned at least with free trade and business.

But given the backwardness, all countries of Subcontinent are actually jostling for lower place in the ladder. A bigger country comprising these entities would be a disaster. And the bigger sufferer would be the same Indians, who are already paying price for poor Indian policies. Had India been undivided, most of Indian resources would have been utilized to resolve the frictions between different linguistic and religious communities. Akhand Bharat, thus would be an unrealistic dream. India, even as per today, is not a completely united country.

However, the idea is still in use by some of so-called political analysts of our neighbours. Among my  favourites, there are a Pakistani and a Bangladeshi personal blog. The classical allegations start from History centric arguments of religious politics, Partition, Caste-war and Hindu fundamentalism. The historical allegations are often true if they are viewed from the one side of the story. The magic of these are to link these history with current Trade or Water disputes or even some internal unrests. While accusing neighbours is a card that India plays more often in case of militancy, the neighbours are not lagging behind in the race. And, the end comes a heavily funded well-organized daemon – RAW. I don’t know what India or RAW gets out of spying some poor neighbours – and trying to influence it [yawn]. RAW is mostly used to monitor Indian own integrity since that is the core of Indian concern.

The conspiracy theories are often childish in nature – as childish as their main opponent idea of ‘Akhand Bharat’ or the Indian hegemony. Most of the time direct reference or statistical evidences are avoided in these writings. For example, the Water dispute with India was a complete battle of self-interest. And the Indus treaty did not bar India from building upstream dams on the western rivers. This fact was clearly misrepresented in the blog. It also discusses sex life of Indira Gandhi and Nehru. I don’t know what purpose did they serve. The other set of writings from Mr Munshi and Mr Zainal Abedin focuses on some imaginary issues. They see India behind all secular causes (promoting Tagore and some Hindu-like cultural aspects in Bangladesh – if it is true I am proud of it) and also some extremist causes (such as JMB). !! Confused !!

I think it’s high time to stop blaming the neighbour and build a nation as most of the subcontinent is still poor. India has matured a lot and of late I have seen positives – at least the foreign policy has been delinked from all interests of Pakistan. To get a better deal from the rest of the world, we need to use any country that fits our interest and remove the bias those we carry as a post-partition baggage. China has already done that. Can India (or would have been ‘Akhand Bharat’) do it?

A Reference book by M B I Munsi – The India Doctrine.

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Written by Diganta

June 12, 2008 at 8:44 am

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  1. I don’t know why Indian people are so weak in thinking.
    They don’t seem to understand the global scenario.
    Every superpower has bigger territories.
    China is eying on getting more territories from India and also to mention some parts from smaller island from Southeast Asia.
    The northeastern part of India is being constantly troubled by Chinese and Bangladeshi insurgencies. Kashmir is troubled
    I am not following the ideas of RSS and trying to bring out the religious idea of Akhand Bharat. But I still support the geopolitical idea of Akhand Bharat. All the superpowers in the world have bigger territories. For instance, today’s superpowers are USA, China and Russia. Of course, they have bigger territories.

    Are you with me here?……..

    Japan, Portugal, UK, France etc, although they are developed countries, they are small and not described as “superpowers”. They are just developed/ advanced countries.
    So, there is a difference!

    I am sorry to tell you that because of Bloggers and thinkers like you all over India, India has taken a back seat with no belongingness at all. We need to work or we will be conquered anyway. Kashmir Northeast India and West Bengal are in real trouble today.
    With our Army, we can really reconquer almost the entire subcontinent. We need someone with balls in the central government.
    I really feel disappointed when I some across people like you. It is really a shame on your part for thinking in such a narrow way.

    Cooldude

    June 28, 2008 at 6:03 am

  2. One thing is sure.

    In the near future the whole of South Asia will be India.

    Now will that be through consensus or through agression, that is the question.

    Satya

    July 8, 2008 at 5:46 pm

  3. Since my name has been mentioned in this article. It would have been nice if the author mentioned my book The India Doctrine. I can assure the reader that the book is not made up of ‘imaginary issues.’ A second edition is due out in September 2008.

    MBI Munshi

    August 5, 2008 at 1:44 pm

  4. I have added your name and the book reference at the end of my writing. Thanks for your comments.

    However, I would not change my stance until I get to see any real document on this topic and not so called allegations and stories.

    Diganta

    August 6, 2008 at 5:26 am

  5. Most of the book is not made up of allegations and stories but admissions by Indian politicians, diplomats, writers, analysts and intelligence officers. The book is refernced in great detail so there can be little doubt about the conclusions. In any case, a second edition is coming out and this has twice t6he amount of information and source materials.

    MBI Munshi

    August 17, 2008 at 1:43 am

    • Your every word is based on the false and idiotic statements of coruppt and faceless politicians, who always try to divide us and rule on us; and they sucseed too because of our stupidity.
      it is not time to be united, it is time to be ONE. Bring back that bigger and real picture of BHARAT. Join pakiatan hindustan bangladesh burma as it was THE BHARAT

      sudhir kumar pal

      October 22, 2010 at 3:15 pm

  6. You will definitely get a lot of quotes from Indian Diplomats, Writers, Analysts because some of them do really believe in that foolish strategy to bring the South Asia into Indian sphere of interest. I mentioned it in my writing as well. At the same time, these people are really tiny minorities and don’t seem to have any influence neither on the activities on the ground nor on the Indian population tired of their own problems.

    It’s the magnitude that matters because foolishness and irrationality are integral parts of Human nature. And I don’t see this strategy to become a high priority item in Indian plate. So the magnitude of this strategy is going limited to a low-priority and low-focus item. It’ll mostly be used to gain influence inside India, rather than applying it outside.

    Diganta

    August 18, 2008 at 8:00 pm

    • Its said in Urdu “Maene jana, goya mere dil main hae”. But please excuse me if this part of the couplet is somewhere unbalanced because we Punjabis always make certain overdoings with Urdu being not Ahl-e-Zuban. Even Allama Iqbal could not come out of this quagmire although he composed poetry in Urdu which revolutionized the minds of Muslims especially in the subcontinent.

      Anyway you have said what’s in the heart of most of the common citizens of South Asia. Your post is one year old but its contents are as much valid as they were last year.

      I am commenting this now because I think it is a very serious issue on which the future of whole of South Asian subcontinent depends.
      There are a lot of people in India with this Akhand Bharat syndrome and in Pakistan with their concept of Ummah but fact remains, which you have very well pointed out that countries do not become great because of their great sizes. They become great for their values. If question of greatness comes supreme, then all empires in the past were geographically great, but where are they now.

      Switzerland a small country in Europe with its fine institutions, academic as well as political, has an excellent record of respect for human values, nationally as well as internationally. It’s a small confederation of cantons which in subcontinental administrative terminology would be no larger than a district or division. Yet this country has always emerged supreme, not only in economy but in science, industry, social benefits to the people, respect for international human rights etc. Back home, they decide every sensitive matter through a public referendum, a real democracy in action.

      Our brothers in India who think of Akhand Bharat, only fan up the designs of people in Pakistan who also would like a great Muslim India revived in the old Mughal style. A dream that is impossible to be fulfilled in this new millennium. Similarly our friends in India, who think of Akhand Bharat, also are day dreaming like their Muslim counterparts. Let us come out of our dreams. Face the facts. This subcontinent needs to feed its teeming millions who are not able to make their both ends meet.
      In spite of Shining India, there is not that much shine in India when majority of its people are below the poverty line.

      And when I write about India, I say the same thing about Pakistan. With that extremism, that militancy and mismanagement on all levels of our governance, we need first to put our houses in order (and let me tell my Indian brothers, they too have lot of linguistic, culturally and racially susceptible structures in their union). Once we have a social structure which provides justice, bread and butter to majority of our people instead of making them run to small welfare states, then & only then can we think who is great and who is small. The commentators who are citing the example of US as a great country, should know that US is great not because of its size but because of those great schools of learning she has, its judiciary, its democratic traditions and above all its universities. Last but not the least the strong foundations provided by its great leaders like Jefferson, Washington and Abraham Lincoln who laid these foundations more on principles than being of a huge and hegemonic size of its states..

      And the very fact that nobody wants to join a weak system, a weak and corrupt system of governance, poor economic condition, such countries, such states are not only a temptation to be exploited but they are susceptible to be exploited at much higher magnitude than a smaller state.. If size would have mattered much, so many of Indians would have not migrated to small states like Dubai, Sharjah, Qatar, Kuwait, France, Belgium or England.

      At the end I would like to mention something which I really feel is something beyond my comprehension. Many well read people in India speak about Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Afghanistan going into tatters.

      They speak like two neighbouring women in some Mohalla taunting each other. India is a great country with whom we have so many beautiful things to share. Why not find something which can bring us closer than speaking things which may bring countries against each other.

      We had enough of aggrandizement against each other. Let all the countries of the SAARC have a common agenda of progress instead of finding fault with each other.

      My friends in India who are forecasting a day of dooms for Pakistan in the name of Balochi, Pashtun, Sindhi aspirations etc. should know that the fabric of Pakistani society has been woven apart from religion through strong cultural, geographical and historical and above all economic affinities. The economies of these four provinces are interdependent. So instead of prophesying dooms for Pakistan or by Pakistanis for India, let us build a strong economically super SAARC Block instead of dishing out “taunts” like quarreling ladies in a Mohalla.

      Nayyar Hashmey
      wondersofpakistan.wordpress.com

      Dr. Nayyar Hashmey

      June 16, 2009 at 5:59 pm

      • pakistan and hindustan are not seperate from each other by heart or by land. they are merely the parts of a single big strong country BHARAT. hindu muslim are only tag names given to man by man, but Allah tallah give all of us one tag INSAAN. be a good human and do humanity, bring all seperated ones together and do a noble thing for a noble cause.

        sudhir kumar pal

        October 22, 2010 at 3:24 pm

  7. The Intellectual Blueprint of the Neo-Razakars

    Over the last few months I have been observing the increasingly monotonous promotion of the book ‘The India Doctrine’ by the infamous Barrister MBI Munshi. His supporters and the books promoters are easily identified and include Isha Khan, Zoglul Hossain Zainal Abedin and Moin Ansari (a Pakistani national residing in New York). These are all well-known and renowned anti-Indians who at every opportunity spout venom at our big neighbour and try to create a hostile and militant attitude to New Delhi. If the opinions of these few individuals were kept within this small coterie there would not be much concern but the ideas and perspectives found in The India Doctrine appear to be spreading. If one reads the recent write-ups and speeches of such public intellectuals like Farhad Mazar, Mahmudur Rahman, Sadeq Khan, Prof. Mahbubullah, Prof. Ataur Rahman, Prof. Razia Banu, Shah Abdul Hannan and the anti-Indian stance of the BNP-Jamaat neo-Razakars you will see the adoption of the ideas contained in The India Doctrine. Similarly, several newspapers, magazines and journals such as the Naya Diganta, Sangram, Dinkal, New Age, Bangladesh Defence Journal, The Financial Express, PROBE, The Bangladesh Today and The New Nation have also been sponsoring or highlighting this new anti-Indian agenda initiated by The India Doctrine.

    After much irritating and incessant publicity surrounding this book I decided to purchase a copy from The Bookworm near Jahangir Gate. This is the only bookstore in Dhaka that actually sells the book. For those who support the ideals of the Liberation War and the sacrifices made by the people of Bangladesh one can only be repulsed by its contents. The book does not even leave Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman untouched by its scurrilous and repulsive innuendoes and second rate theorizing about a supposed and fantastic Akhand Bharat being allegedly pursued by Indian policy-makers since partition in 1947. What Barrister MBI Munshi does not discuss is the sacrifices that were made by India for the independence of Bangladesh. Barrister Munshi manages to disingenuously twist history to make India appear as the villain and not the murderous Pakistan army that raped and killed unarmed civilians in the erstwhile East Pakistan.

    What is particularly aggravating is that none of the so-called defenders of our freedoms and secular ideals has come forward to contradict the objectives and ideas of the book. This is extremely dangerous as the anti-Indian tilt now appearing in Bangladesh could have very unfortunate consequences for the country. If New Delhi views its small neighbour as becoming hostile to its friendly overtures it could turn the screws and make things difficult for Bangladesh. Already many in India view Bangladesh as ungrateful. The secular intellectuals of Bangladesh must come forward and warn of the dangers of following the ideas contained in The India Doctrine.

    The book essentially promotes an intellectual blueprint for instability and reversal of the secular gains made in 1971 which ultimately trashed the concept of the Two Nation Theory but which is still oddly propounded in Pakistan. After 1971, Pakistanis should have come to realize that the misguided ideals of the Two Nation Theory are no longer relevant – the creation of Bangladesh proves that point. Unfortunately the neo-Razakars in Bangladesh still passionately hold to this concept of the Two Nation Theory. The India Doctrine superficially provides them with an argument but it is indeed a weak foundation. The dream of India’s disintegration (an implication made in the book) is just that – a dream. Instead we are seeing Pakistan on the verge of political collapse and Bangladesh with an uncertain future. It is without doubt India that will emerge as the regional superpower and elites in Pakistan and Bangladesh better come to recognize that reality or both countries will suffer the consequences. Both Pakistan and Bangladesh are too weak and internally divided to pose a threat to India’s rise so why foster dreams based on an ill-conceived religious division which has done more harm than good. The meaning of Islam is submission so both countries should gracefully submit!

    Sohail Tajul Islam
    Student
    Imperial College London

    Sohail Tajul Islam

    August 24, 2008 at 4:34 pm

  8. A promoter of Indian hegemonism in Bangladesh

    By Zoglul Husain, UK

    I refer to the article in NFB titled “The Intellectual Blueprint of the Neo-Razakars” by Sohail Tajul Islam, published on August 25, 2008 in the Reader’s Opinion section. The writer introduced himself as a student of Imperial College, London: (E Mail: sohailtaj2008@gmail.com).

    To Sohail Tajul Islam, any one who stands for the independence and sovereignty of Bangladesh is a ‘neo-rajakar’. He has listed many writers and newspapers as anti-India and to whom, in his opinion, his title of ‘neo-rajakar’ applies. It is possible that he has been prompted by his backers from dark corners to produce this list. However, anti-hegemonism is not the same as anti-India, and anti-imperialism is not the same as anti-America, and any conscious person should steadfastly struggle against imperialism, hegemonism, inequality and exploitation.

    Without going into details, it needs to be mentioned that we wanted independence for one reason, but India wanted to divide Pakistan for another reason, with their ulterior motive of reducing Bangladesh to a vassal state and finally annexing it to India as a dependent state. Sohail Tajul Islam wants us to be grateful to India for 1971 and he then, what is more, wants us to surrender our independence to India. But what has he got to say about the plunder of Bangladesh by India after 16 December 1971, the permanent massive damage to Bangladesh by Farakka barrage, the raising of Rakkhi Bahini who ruthlessly massacred 30 thousand patriots (half of them of JSD) and established a reign of terror to bring Bangladesh to its knees in front of India, the killings of hundreds of villagers at the border, the uneven trade of India with Bangladesh with which billions of dollars are being plundered by India from Bangladesh every year, etc., etc.? How is Bangladesh going to be compensated for the losses of these valuable lives, the massive permanent damages and the huge plunders? But as regards the people of India, we of course promote the people-to-people solidarity between all the countries of the world and we support the struggles for the emancipation of the people in all countries.

    Sohail Tajul Islam also terms the book, “The India Doctrine” edited by Barrister MBI Munshi, as “The Intellectual Blueprint of the Neo-Razakars”. He offers neither arguments nor logic, but dishes out abusive expressions and personal attacks.

    There cannot be any doubt that Sohail Tajul Islam is a promoter of Indian hegemonism in Bangladesh. Actually he goes more than most in his submission, and he invites others to submit, to his hegemonic masters when he concludes: “It is without doubt India that will emerge as the regional superpower and elites in Pakistan and Bangladesh better come to recognize that reality or both countries will suffer the consequences. Both Pakistan and Bangladesh are too weak and internally divided to pose a threat to India’s rise so why foster dreams based on an ill-conceived religious division which has done more harm than good. The meaning of Islam is submission so both countries should gracefully submit!“ No doubt he is a promoter of “Akhand Bharat” (undivided India), which MBI Munshi and other writers of the book, The India Doctrine, have taken pains to explain precisely the concept of and the Indian operations thereof since 1947.

    Thus, according to Sohail Tajul Islam, the two-nation theory, on the basis of which British India was partitioned was “an ill-conceived religious division which has done more harm than good” and that both Bangladesh and Pakistan should submit their independence to India!! And in his supreme wisdom (!), he says: “The meaning of Islam is submission so both countries should gracefully submit!“

    After this, the writer could be totally ignored and brushed off. But for the sake of our respected and patient readers, and for the sake of the writer too, a few points need to be mentioned. Firstly, weak nations can certainly defeat strong nations. It is the weak nations who smashed colonialism to smithereens! Again, weak nations like Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, many countries in Latin America and many other countries of the world have defeated imperialism. So, threat to other countries of South Asia about the potential super power of India is futile and counter-productive in a world, where weak nations refuse to be cowed down even by the hyper power, the USA. On the other hand, India is beset with huge problems of poverty, inequality and strife, which are no better than the situation in Bangladesh.

    Secondly, it was over-riding socio-economic and political necessities with the tag of ‘two-nation theory’ which led to the partition of British India. Even the Communist Party of India (CPI) in 1942 supported the movement for Pakistan i.e., supported the partition of British India on the basis of ‘two nation theory’. As Sohail Tajul Islam is a college student, he can study these in detail, and of course CPI is no less secular than what he professes to be as his main contention. Just a reminder to him that secularism is not the same as servitude or prostrating to Indian hegemonism.

    Thirdly, when he says, “The meaning of Islam is submission so both countries should gracefully submit“ (their independence to India), he distorts and abuses the ‘meaning’ of Islam. He has actually insulted a faith, without understanding the implication of what he is saying. He seems to be utterly confounded in his thoughts on religion. One should be very careful about making any statement about any religion. “Islamic theology says that all of God’s messengers since Adam preached the message of Islam—submission to the will of God” (Wikipedia). So, it is submission to the will of God, not to the devil of Indian hegemonism!

    Fourthly and finally, I assume Sohail Tajul Islam is a normal-age college student and not what is termed as a ‘mature student’. So, at his formative tender age, I will not describe him as a national-traitor or accuse him of insulting religion, except that I will take him to be grossly misguided by vested interest groups. I think it would be right to give him a stark warning that unless he makes amends and cleans up his ways and comes out of the network of RAW, he will be destined to reap the bitter harvest of the wrath of the people of Bangladesh as well as the wrath of the right-minded people of India and other peoples of South Asia, however endearing his writings may be to the hegemonists of India and their lackeys in India, Bangladesh and elsewhere in South Asia or rest of the world.

    Writer: Zoglul Husain
    E-mail: zoglul@hotmail.co.uk

    Links:

    Sohail Tajul Islam’s article against MBI Munshi’s ‘The India Doctrine’ and against supporters of Bangladesh:

    http://newsfrombangladesh.net/view.php?hidRecord=217766

    Isha Khan’s Review of MBI Munshi’s ‘The India Doctrine’:

    http://bangladesh-web.com/view.php?hidDate=2006-08-25&hidType=FEA&hidRecord=0000000000000000124325

    Zoglul Husain’s review of MBI Munshi’s ‘The India Doctrine’:

    http://newsfrombangladesh.net/view.php?hidDate=2008-05-27&hidType=HIG&hidRecord=0000000000000000201715

    MBI Munshi

    August 29, 2008 at 1:44 am

  9. I really don’t understand why people use my blog as their mutual battleground!! The points I had to say in my original blog are :
    1) “Akhand Bharat” is an counter-productive idea and every intellectual knows that.
    2) The idea is still in use by ultra-nationalists in India and their counterparts in neighbourhoods to draw attention of the ignorant people.

    Diganta

    August 29, 2008 at 9:38 pm

  10. Short sighted opinions of so many anti – India speakers.

    Whatever problems that Bangladesh is having with India are all minors and can be solved on a table. BSF and BDR are involved in heavy smuggling and hence they have issues. Other issues are mere technical in nature.

    India could have annexed Bangladesh if it had aspired so, when Bangladeshis themselves were greatful for their liberation. India has preserved Bangla culture very beautifully. Bangladesh should not try to copy Pakistan, that would be doomed route. Always raising bogey of India’s hegemonic ambitions is not good. It is a false propaganda, please solve all the issues with india.

    Pakistan is also quickly learning that China doesn’t control everything in world and Chinese also mean business and any day they can ditch them. Chinese have long propped up Pakistan, even reports are that they had (provided nuclear knowhow also ) in the past tested nuclear bomb for pakistan so as to keep pakistani matched up with India, but how long.
    Pakistani social fabric is gone and very soon without any india’s intervention it may split into several smaller countries like balochistan or sindh, unless they join hand with india and give up ambition of annexing Kashmir (just because it is Muslim). They should realize that they did fail in Bangladesh in 1971, doing the same.
    India’s social fabric, secularism and communal harmony should be helped so that it becomes a shining example in the globe, where all religion can thrive peacefully.

    Gus

    September 7, 2008 at 12:35 am

  11. THERE IS NO AKHANDA BHARAT IN USE– WHO WILL TAKE MILLIONS OF BEGGARS . INDIA HAS PLENTY OF IT’S OWN TO FEED.

    PAKISTAN IS ALREADY DOWN IN DRAINS AND ALREADY SEVERAL MILLIONS OF BANGLADESHIS ARE IN INDIAN SLUMS BESIDES SO MANY POOR INDIANS.

    INDIANS ARE HAPPY WITH THEIR CURRENT AKHAND BHARAT.IF WE ARE ABLE TO UPLIFT THEM OUT OF POVERTY THAT WOULD BE GREAT ..

    SO CORRECT YOUR NOTION NO NATIONALIST PARTY IN INDIA IS INTERESTED IN MORE ADDITION TO AKHAND BHARAT THAT WE HAVE.

    Regards – GUS

    Gus

    September 7, 2008 at 12:39 am

  12. No nation in this world has ever collapsed because of poverty. States and empires fall apart only when the ruling elite degenerate into a bunch of fools who lose touch with reality.
    Unification of South Asia into a single empire in which people united by a common Indic civilisation is a necessity for 2 reasons-
    1. If whole of Greater India is unified it will mean that people of this region will have lesser risk of foreign conquest
    2. A distinct civilisation will enable south Asiatic people to rise as a people who are proud of their ancestors who have bequeathed them a rich civilisation but distinct from that of Sinic, Iranian or Arab. The sense that their forefathers by their own efforts had built up what is today called as Indus civilisation would encourage them to emulate the same as Indus people of 2000 BC.

    Aftab

    August 8, 2009 at 8:02 pm

  13. The idea of India as a country and geographical area existed before europe was civilised. It is sad to see indian bashers of indian origin ignore true reality. even the so called dravidian south and aryan north is not applicable. too much mixing now to be classified as separate races. indeed it is now a single indian race. as for pakistan and bangladesh (nothing is truer that this) most of their citizen are indian decendants of hindu converts. so why do you engage in an identity crisis by believing that you are arabs?
    relegion and caste aside, there is an India! This is the truth regardless of perspective.

    Oh! and this is from a non-indian!

    Wesley

    August 20, 2009 at 8:42 pm

  14. dude u gotta understand things properly before writing blantantly wrong articles. RAW needs to spy in pakistan for a lot of reasons. do u wanna get bombed everyday mister. where do u think terrorists come from? England. obviously pakistan and bangladesh. who did India had 4 wars with? Spain or Peru, obviously Pakistna. and yea bigger the nation the better it is. dats why all superpowers where big territories. English empire was the biggest in the world. USSR was largest country and a superpower, with its breakup it wilted down.
    USA is a superpower and is 4th largest country and upcoming superpower is china.

    get ur facts right bro! u r all wrong!

    Soumodeep

    June 2, 2010 at 6:55 pm

  15. Unfortunately, a lot of “Akhand Bharat” has been infected with the cancer of Islam. Muslims just dont believe in freedom of any kind. An Akhand Bharat should be based on democracy, otherwise what is the use? India might have millions of beggars, but I would rather be poor than a slave like so many others in Asia. People in Pak, Bangladesh, SL, Burma, Thailand, Malaysia are slaves of their government.

    SS

    September 28, 2010 at 1:05 am

    • religion is not cancer, our own foolishness and betrayl is cancer. be a good human being and see all cancer to get washed itself

      sudhir kumar pal

      October 22, 2010 at 3:35 pm

  16. whatever… I’m tired of reading all these so called “intellectual” discussions … the fact is that the partition happened over 60 years ago there’s no going back now – what’s done is done just move on ! and the guy above me… u have no right to call other people’s religion a “cancer” u should be ashamed of urself

    Harjit Singh

    October 1, 2010 at 5:17 am

  17. VERY WELL SAID.
    Nayyar Hashmey
    http://wondersofpakistan.wordpress.com/

    Dr. Nayyar Hashmey

    October 1, 2010 at 11:11 am


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